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Post by Lord Vader on May 2, 2006 16:00:41 GMT -5
After viewing the movie, I realized that perhaps Zilla isn't as exactly as weak as we make him out to be. Previous to his death on the Brooklyn Bridge, he was struck by two torpedoes and a variety of small arms fire. Realizing that your average torpedo carries an extremely heavy and powerful payload - and we could only presume that these would be even heavier do to the situation - just how sucky was Zilla's defense?
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Post by Lord Vader on May 2, 2006 16:09:28 GMT -5
I personally am undecided. In no way am I saying that his defensive strength is good or even mediocre and it certainly doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Godzila. However, I do feel that maybe he could be cut just a tiny bit more slack, solely in consideration of the strength of torpedoes.
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Post by Psychozilla on May 2, 2006 16:09:47 GMT -5
The problem is, is that his strength was inconsistant. For most of the movie, he was immune to everything, except when plot convienent. Then all of a sudden some jets come by with 6 missles that wouldn't have worked at the beginning of the movie, and kill him. Of course, if it didn't work the movie couldn't of ended.
Personally, I prefured their original idea involving Zilla fighting some weird lion-thing named Chimera.
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Post by Lord Vader on May 2, 2006 16:14:16 GMT -5
His strength was anything but inconsistent. He was never struck by any heavy weaponry until he met up with the torpedoes.
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Post by Goji on May 2, 2006 16:17:25 GMT -5
Ok, first, somthing needs to be cleared up. GINO is the tristar Godzilla, Zilla is the Toho version. That'll make things a bit easier.
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Post by Psychozilla on May 2, 2006 16:17:36 GMT -5
And the torpedos didnt do jack shit. The missles, meanwhile, acted like you were trying to shoot an iguana. Which, on a massive scale, was exactly what happened.
To Goji: Pretty much the same guy though. Kinda like the Hollywood Kong and the Toho Kong.
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Post by LaCroix on May 2, 2006 16:43:34 GMT -5
It is a bit odd. Torpedos are designed to be anti-ship weapons. And those of the USN are especially advanced and powerful, while the F-18 Hornets missiles are simply designed to destroy other fighters of buildings. I'd say his strength is defiantly underated.
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Post by Daemon on May 2, 2006 17:41:02 GMT -5
And the torpedos didnt do jack shit. The missles, meanwhile, acted like you were trying to shoot an iguana. Which, on a massive scale, was exactly what happened. To Goji: Pretty much the same guy though. Kinda like the Hollywood Kong and the Toho Kong. Gee, knocking him tottaly silly and giving him a wound on his side ((it's there)) I would not call jack or shit. And please.. if your going to make a comment try not to sound stupid. *points to the Hollywood and Toho Kong* Two different beasties thier twat.
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Post by Lord Vader on May 2, 2006 19:21:39 GMT -5
Thank you Daemon. Psycho, please think before you speak. Yeah Toho Kong and Hollywood Kong are similar - both being apes and having the same name, the similarity ends there - but they are not the same creature.
GINO and Zilla however are different. They are essentially the same creature, just with different backstories. Even Wikipedia has the complete history of both underneath its Zilla article.
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Post by Goji on May 3, 2006 6:25:04 GMT -5
But that isn't my point. My point is that GINO was much weaker than Zilla. We don't have much to go be, seeing as how Zilla lived about 6 seconds...
But in my opinion, GINO was killed by missles. Zilla, on the other hand, took a direct hit from GODZILLA, and then got right back up. He was then torched by Godzilla's breath weapon. IMO, Godzillas attack on Zilla would have done more damage thatn the misssles did to GINO.
Though that had nothing to do with him being underrated, I just wanted to point out that they ARE different.
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Post by Lord Vader on May 3, 2006 14:57:08 GMT -5
...This discussion has absolutely nothing to do with Final Wars other than the mistake - on my part - about the name. GINO was killed by missiles as that is obvious. However, what I'm saying is that he was severely weakened before hand from the torpedoes that had struck him earlier.
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Post by drstrangelove on May 3, 2006 15:03:03 GMT -5
Last I checked, physical strength was determined by lifting/crushing power, what you seem to be talking about is Endurence.
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Post by Psychozilla on May 3, 2006 15:31:57 GMT -5
What I mean about them not doing jack shit, is that I saw no physical wounds on GINO when he emerged from the ruins of the stadium, or any real signs of pain.
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Post by Daemon on May 3, 2006 17:08:39 GMT -5
You obviously where not paying attention.
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Post by Goji on May 3, 2006 21:30:28 GMT -5
No, he does have a point. GINO showed no external wounds until the jet's hit him.
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